Ep 224: Intention Behind Design: Interview with Kate Vitale
Episode Summary
In this episode, Michelle sits down with Kate Vitale, founder of Vitale Interiors, to explore the intersection of interior design, wellness, and intuition. With a background in corporate fashion and trend forecasting, Kate brings a unique perspective to creating spaces that feel grounded, calming, and deeply personal.
They dive into what “interior wellness” actually looks like in practice, how designers can better listen to what clients aren’t saying, and the realities of building a creative business—from confidence challenges to finding community.
This conversation is equal parts design philosophy, business growth, and personal evolution.
Kate Vitale is the founder of Vitale Interiors, a Long Island based interior design studio known for blending timeless style with a sense of calm and groundedness. Formerly a fashion executive, Kate brings an intuitive approach to design, carrying with her a refined instinct for what feels both current and enduring. Vitale Interiors is celebrated for its textural, nature-rooted approach to elevated living - layering natural materials, classic elements, and wellness-driven principles to create elevated spaces that feel like home. She helps clients tune into what they really want, beyond trends or expectations, and create spaces that reflect them on every level.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
What “interior wellness” really means (beyond buzzwords and trends)
How textures, color, and layout subtly impact how we feel in a space
Why clients often communicate their needs indirectly—and how to listen for it
The truth about trends in interior design (and why they’re not as fleeting as you think)
How Kate transitioned from corporate fashion to running her own design studio
The role intuition plays in both design decisions and client relationships
The confidence shifts required when stepping into leadership as a business owner
Why community and support are essential when growing a creative business
Key Takeaways
Design is more than visual—it’s emotional.
The way a space is layered, textured, and arranged directly affects how people feel, even if they can’t articulate why.
Clients don’t always say what they need—but they show you.
Pay attention to the underlying meaning behind comments like “we never use this room” or “something feels off.”
Trends aren’t the enemy.
Unlike fast fashion, interior design trends evolve slowly—often lasting 15–20 years when applied thoughtfully.
Confidence is built through doing.
Learning to trust your vision (and not over-deliver unnecessary options) is a key shift in becoming a strong designer.
Building a business is personal growth work.
Entrepreneurship will surface new challenges—and new levels of self-awareness.
Notable Moments
Kate’s perspective on balancing aesthetics with emotional impact
The story behind her shift from fashion to interiors during COVID
A candid conversation about confidence, client presentations, and over-delivering
Michelle and Kate discussing how design decisions influence connection within a home
The importance of intentionality—in both life and business
About Kate Vitale
Kate Vitale is the founder of Vitale Interiors, a Long Island-based design studio known for creating timeless, grounded spaces rooted in nature and wellness. With a background in fashion and trend forecasting, she blends intuition with strategy to design homes that reflect her clients on a deeper level.
Resources & Mentions
The Book Thief by Markus Zusak
Tiny Beautiful Things by Cheryl Strayed
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith
Want to work with Michelle? Email us to learn more about the coaching experience Kate had at [email protected]
Connect with Kate
Instagram (Personal): @katevitale_
Instagram (Business): @vitaleinteriors
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Transcript:
speaker-0 (00:52)
Hey, hey, hey, y'all. Welcome back to Design for the Creative Mind. I am Michelle Lynn, your host, and I am here today with Kate Vitali. She is a Long Island based interior designer and the founder of Vitali Interiors. This is a design studio that specializes in designs that regulate, ground, and restore rooted in nature and interior wellness. Kate, welcome. Hi. I'm so glad you're here. This is gonna be so much fun.
speaker-1 (01:17)
Thanks for having me.
speaker-0 (01:22)
I love the specialization of your studio. before we go into any other questions, can you just tell me a little bit more about like rooted in nature and interior wellness? How does that translate to your designs? How do you express that to your clients? Like this is, this is a hot topic these days.
speaker-1 (01:40)
It is a hot topic these days and I'm not as in into it as like specifically like biolithic design. I mean, obviously I work that in. think real plants are really important. I'm very into like color theory. Textures really important to me. I think having a lot of different textures balances out spaces and sure it's easy to say like, you know, blue isn't going to change my life or like this Sherpa pillow is not going to.
you know, all my problems, right? But if it, these things do affect us. And like when you are really stressed out and you have something tactile and soft and cozy that you can sit and just kind of like reflect on your day on, it does make a difference when you're comfortable in that space. So I'm not like specifically into one area. I think that the balance of everything is really important.
Yeah, it's really important in my designs. It's important in my life. And I think we're all like aim for balance no matter what, you know.
speaker-0 (02:39)
That's so true and it's interesting because as designers, think we know this inherently.
speaker-1 (02:45)
Mm-hmm
speaker-0 (02:47)
but you put it into words really well. And I think that clients, once it's laid out for them, they tend to understand it a little bit better.
speaker-1 (02:58)
Yeah, because I didn't even really understand what I was being drawn to at first until I started to, you know, just research it because I have a passion for it, you know, and for interior design, right? Like we're always looking at other designs and getting inspiration and seeing like what we're drawn to. So it was like when I was starting to think about business and when I was really starting to get serious about interiors, I was thinking like, it's also at a time where we're so oversaturated.
with like overstimulation and opinions and like, you know, it's just like, gosh, it's like a never ending run, right? Of like voices and things that we should be doing. I, and then I was on a social media detox actually. I had completely like deleted Instagram and everything. And when, when I started to get serious about business, I'm like, okay, I need to get it. I need to get like an Instagram back at least. And
what do I want to be putting out? Like, do I want to just be adding to the noise or like for me, what would, what would be like a healthy way for me to feel like I'm showing up and like what I'm contributing.
speaker-0 (04:02)
love that. Yeah, because social media can just be a bunch of noise. And it oftentimes is. So what is that? So what does it look like in practice for you when you are taking this idea of interior wellness?
speaker-1 (04:16)
I like to get more specific on Instagram than I do like in person. I I'm not always like to my clients. This arch cabinet is gonna be good for you because it does represent openness and newness. But you know, I'm not always leading with that, but on my Instagram, I do like to get way more specific in like still shots or in my captions when I'm describing those things like the power of color and like the psychology of color.
the textures, what things represent, what things are bringing in, what they're meant to make you feel like. Because again, a lot of times, like, we are affected by our surroundings every single day. And it's either you're conscious of it you're not, but you are affected by them. So sometimes it's like, I love that room. And then these could be the reasons why, or I hate that room and I can't put my finger on one.
speaker-0 (05:01)
Now, how did you learn, like you were talking about the arched cabinet represents openness. Where did you learn this philosophy?
speaker-1 (05:08)
Hmm.
I'm very into like, there's like a spiritual element to I would say my life and I'm very into energetics and just how things work together. So I just like researching things like that. And the designers, like some of the designers that I've been really drawn to are really into like interior wellness. So I have learned a lot from other designers that I look up to.
speaker-0 (05:25)
I love that,
speaker-1 (05:38)
like Ginger Curtis is someone who of urbanology, right? She's, my gosh, she's amazing and her story is amazing. And she talks a lot just about like the balance of things and you know, just how important beauty is. For her, it's more of like beauty and function. But yeah, I just like to look into stuff like that and just see like, what are the things around us? How are they affecting us?
speaker-0 (05:42)
right around the corner from me.
Yeah, and it's so true because you can walk into a space and feel it's like I was telling you before we went live is that I went home to my mom's house for Christmas. And it's just it's my mom's house is so incredibly simple. And it's just but the way it feels is just
speaker-1 (06:10)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (06:24)
And it's not just because of her presence, but it's how she's pulled her home together that you can feel that love and that coziness. And she was telling me that my nephew tells her, hey, granny, I love coming to your house. It feels so cozy. Yeah. And I'm like, that's what I my house to feel like to my children and family and friends. And you do, you walk into other people, you go to my in-law's house and it's just not nearly as welcoming.
speaker-1 (06:48)
We won't tell them.
speaker-0 (06:49)
Exactly, exactly. So it's just funny how it really does change the space. And like I referred to earlier, we take it for granted as designers. The fact that you are doing those deep dives and sharing it is, I mean, I'm going to go, I need to go follow your new, we were just talking about this too. So.
speaker-1 (06:59)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (07:10)
We're going to put this in the show notes. So you guys are going to have to stay until the end of the podcast to get her, her, handle, but you were doing personal for a long time and now you've just recently launched your professional Instagram. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm heading all over there next.
speaker-1 (07:26)
Yes.
Yeah, please do. I'm very excited about it.
speaker-0 (07:33)
I love that. And the fact that you have a theory or intention behind your posts and not just.
speaker-1 (07:41)
Yeah, and I think to what you just said, like an intention behind the designs too, because again, it's easy to say like, a room isn't laid out right, you know, or, or like, you know, your, your sofa should be pulled away from the wall and the chair should be here. But like, why? What's that doing for people? You know, like, that's kind of the thing that I find so interesting. It's like, it's actually because it creates like these sections where you're getting, you can get more intimate, where you can really hang out and connect together.
You know, there like there is reasons behind these things that like benefit and build your like your home.
speaker-0 (08:16)
Right. And it's not just a textbook theory that you need to be pulling these things and putting them at least the front feet of your furniture on the. There's a reason for it. Oh, fun. So, with that, with, with your interior wellness philosophy, how do you balance, say your client's needs, your intuition, the longevity, like when you're designing a home,
And what is your take on trends?
speaker-1 (08:45)
So I balance these things by, I try to really listen to the things that they're saying and to what they tell us. Cause I don't know if you feel this Michelle, but sometimes it's like people say things and without even realizing that they're saying it, they're describing like a need that they have without being like, I need to spend more time with my family in this room. Or I need to like, I want to be at the table more with everyone. You know, it's like they're, they're.
they're saying like, we never hang out in there or this is like a dead space or I try to really listen to like the deeper level of what they're saying so that then I know like, they need more warmth or they need more simulation, maybe something is like too calm. And like, okay, we need to pump it up in there a little bit. We need to like get some action, like some energy rotating in there to like make sure.
speaker-0 (09:27)
yeah.
The master bedroom.
speaker-1 (09:36)
You never know where it's going to pop up. But yeah, so I try to just like really listen for the things that maybe they're not saying because I think also like people get nervous when they first meet with us like as designers, right? And they're like, I don't know what I like. And then like they really do.
speaker-0 (09:52)
Yes and they have an opinion about what they don't like as well.
speaker-1 (09:55)
Yeah, yes. And that is helpful, too. A lot of times people apologize for that. like, never be sorry for things you don't like. We need to know so we can help you out.
speaker-0 (10:02)
That doesn't hurt my feelings.
So Kate, what's your education? What is your background?
speaker-1 (10:10)
My background is in fashion design and I was in corporate fashion, which we could do a whole other podcast about. a close to 50 years. corporate's a whole different animal. And so, and I was doing trend forecasting. And I, so I was finding trends, helping to develop them into big ideas for the business. And
I really loved it, but it was definitely like, you know, more of like a hustle culture. And there was an element to like over consumption. just being in like a large corporation and, working on those types of things in such fast paced. But now I find on the flip side that my clients like hate the word trend. And sometimes such a positive thing. So, and I wish that.
speaker-0 (10:52)
You
speaker-1 (10:57)
I wish people would be a little more open to it because also interior trends last like 20 years. 15, 20 years.
speaker-0 (11:06)
But you hear trend and you're thinking, this is just going to be out the door soon.
speaker-1 (11:10)
Yeah,
like it's like color trend, color drenching. That's a trend. like, it is, but
speaker-0 (11:15)
No. Yeah, but it's not going to be something that you're going to change in four years.
speaker-1 (11:19)
Yeah, it's just like air quotes the right way to paint right now. It's not like it's not like a trend like, you know. Yeah, it's not like
speaker-0 (11:26)
the neon well I'm gonna date myself but like the neon outfits that I used to wear in high school.
speaker-1 (11:32)
I feel
like why did I ever do that? I mean, we can't say white cabinets are a trend in Michelle. I wish those would go away. But you know what? Sometimes I do them and it does look really pretty.
speaker-0 (11:43)
It's like we moved into our current house about a year and a half ago and the kitchen was white, white cabinets, white backsplash, white countertops. And it's not in the budget to redo it anytime soon because moving and all the things, but I'm like, my God, this is horrible. Like I'm seriously thinking about just painting my cabinets myself. It's that bad. So I'm with you. I'm with you. Or at least a creamy white. Give me a creamy white. ⁓
speaker-1 (11:52)
Mm-hmm.
light exactly.
speaker-0 (12:11)
So exactly. No. Okay. So the reason why I was asking what your background is, is like, how did you, how did you, like, you talk a lot about listening and your intuition and how did you learn that part of this job?
speaker-1 (12:26)
That's a good question.
speaker-0 (12:28)
Yeah, I just naturally you.
speaker-1 (12:30)
Yeah, I think it's naturally, it's naturally me. I'm, I just love, well, not all, but most people. And I like hearing about people's experiences and their stories. Like one of my favorite parts, which I laugh every time I hear people say that they hate this part of interior design, but like, I love working with the clients. I think it's hilarious when people, mean, every couple, I feel like we've talked about this in the bakery. Like every couple has the same fights.
everyone argues about the same things. And it's like, I don't know, I just, like it. I like that people have to let me inside and like show me around and you know, tell me like how, what they want their space to look like. And yeah, I just, it's naturally definitely who I am and I'm just, you know, I'm- get paid for it. Yeah.
speaker-0 (13:19)
No, isn't that great? We get to do what we love.
speaker-1 (13:22)
It is, it is.
speaker-0 (13:24)
That is so fun. So.
Let's talk about, you just mentioned the bakery. So, when were you in the bakery?
speaker-1 (13:31)
I am still currently in the bakery and I believe I signed up last April.
speaker-0 (13:35)
Right, so you've got a couple more months.
speaker-1 (13:37)
It's
about yeah, I have a couple more months and it's been it's been really amazing. the first time I ever heard about it was when I saw you at High Point Market. This was like maybe two markets ago. Yeah. Ask you I don't know if you I don't know if market has always done the the panels the speaking panels.
speaker-0 (13:48)
Yeah, yeah, ⁓
Were you at Universal or Faze?
speaker-1 (13:59)
Faisy, the rugs. I actually both, I went to both of yours. Okay. That was the first, that was the first market that we made like a couple of appointments and then we decided to prioritize the speaker panels.
speaker-0 (14:12)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a thing. It's a thing. There's great education at High Point.
speaker-1 (14:18)
Yeah, and then I learned about the bakery and I didn't end up signing up with it. Maybe it was like a year or so later. But I was following you on Instagram and all your stories and you know, and all the other designers that I met there.
speaker-0 (14:25)
That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense.
Yay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's fun. Now I always love hearing like how we connected, but where, so you have gone from like a solo designer and now where are you in your, in your growth? Like you're running a design studio.
speaker-1 (14:55)
Yeah, well, when I first started, I started with my aunt. She had a business since 1996. So she had been doing it for a really long time. She had her own process going. then, so I've been working with her and I've just been, I was like learning the ropes. You know, when I first started, I'm like, how do you draw a line and sketch up YouTube, you know, courses? like, I I was always really good.
speaker-0 (15:22)
I'm
going live.
speaker-1 (15:24)
like, which way is up? She's talking to me about the axis. I'm like, I don't know what is going on. But so, um, I always had an interest in interiors, but yeah, I didn't obviously think I was ever going to have a business in it. And then started working with her and then, um, we're still working together now, but we've switched over. Um, and now I'm the owner of, of our new LLC. And so I, I just needed a process. I think after corporate, I like threw the baby out with the bath water.
speaker-0 (15:30)
That's awesome.
speaker-1 (15:53)
And I don't structure, you know, I don't even talk to her for a little while. And I was just kind of like having fun, just like learning and doing the fun side of it. And then, you know, I knew it was like time to get serious.
speaker-0 (16:06)
I do remember when you came on board talking about how you had been working with your aunt and how she just did a lot of it intuitively. Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely remember that.
So Kate, so what has surprised you the most about building a business around creativity and wellness?
speaker-1 (16:23)
Definitely how fulfilling it is and how positive it has been. It's definitely been a huge challenge, but, I remember saying to you how this, I, when I first got in touch with you, was like, this is, this is kind of the best, the strongest version of me that I've been. And I'm really excited to start the bakery and to learn things. And you know, little did I know owning a business, really brings out the things that like, you thought you got everything, but there's still some little.
speaker-0 (16:50)
Right? Yeah.
speaker-1 (16:51)
Little corners in there.
speaker-0 (16:53)
It is like it's, it's, it's as much work on self as it is on this, like this business. It's the craziest thing, isn't it? I say you get more sophisticated and then your business gets more sophisticated and then your clients get more sophisticated and then you, and it's this growth. Yeah. And it's like a mirror.
speaker-1 (17:00)
Yeah.
Yes.
my gosh.
And the game of confidence that you play with yourself, I think is so interesting too. Like when I first started, I was very much like used to having people, you know, over my shoulder and like, you know, you have 20,000 meetings in corporate about everything, you know? And this is like, you know, you're showing people designs and they're like, it's great. I love it. I'm like, do you want to see a couple more versions? My aunt's like, don't. Do not offer more.
speaker-0 (17:37)
I'm just checking
off.
speaker-1 (17:41)
You know, just be confident, like you love it, they love it. And it was like, you know, it's it's just nice settling in to yourself and settling into like the idea of other people getting the vision. It's not it's not all the time, you know, we know what it's like to have difficult.
speaker-0 (17:58)
Absolutely. that's an interesting part of the job, but you're right. No, speaking of which though, since you've been in the bakery for a little while, if you haven't make sure you go back and visit module four. Now, granted you have access to the content forever, but module four, we've updated things at ML interiors group. And so we've put in these pre-scheduled meetings to really hammer out a lot of the process.
gas getting to that point where they don't make any change.
speaker-1 (18:28)
Exactly, right. The style quizzes, the client questionnaires, the onboarding process. Yeah, it's very helpful and robust.
speaker-0 (18:37)
Yes, very robust and then we've added like anywhere between four and eight meetings throughout once they sign the contract all the way through. Good, good,
speaker-1 (18:46)
Yeah.
Good. Because you want your clients to like take go through the process with you. my gosh. along for the ride, not just like surprise. Here's what I think you need.
speaker-0 (18:57)
Okay,
I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I can make fun of myself. We used to do that. I mean, I
speaker-1 (19:02)
I didn't do it when I was first started.
speaker-0 (19:05)
That's how HGTV did it. thought that's what we were supposed to do. We disappear for a month or so and come back.
speaker-1 (19:13)
Here you
speaker-0 (19:13)
It was a lot. It was a lot.
So let me ask you, would you say, who do you need to be in order to lead your company? Because you said you just flip-flopped with your aunt. Who is Kate today?
I'm the one.
speaker-1 (19:29)
I would say that I'm calmer and a little more intentional or a lot more intentional and again more confident and more open to not knowing and learning and figuring it out.
speaker-0 (19:45)
Look at that. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great answer, Kate, because we have to be okay not knowing. my god. What made you change direction from the fashion corporate to like, why did you change it sounded like you had a pretty sweet spot there.
speaker-1 (19:53)
Yeah. There's there's so much we don't know.
COVID happened.
speaker-0 (20:10)
Say no more.
speaker-1 (20:12)
You know, I started out that whole experience being just like praying, like, you know, I just hope that I'm a different person after all this. Cause I feel like you shouldn't go through huge things like that and like come out the same. You know, you should have a little.
speaker-0 (20:26)
Yeah, little retrospect.
speaker-1 (20:28)
Yeah. So then I, then I changed big time and I, and I just thought, you know, I just don't think I'm going to be able, I'm not like looking at it in the same way. It's starting to really get to like, I just don't think I can, I'm going to be able to navigate in this theme, you know, in the same way. And it was just, it was just time for a change and it worked out perfect. Cause my aunt's business at the time was evolving and she was like, why didn't you just come in? Like, you know, I need help and why don't you just see.
you like it. I had always been interested in interior as always. So it was like, yeah, it really was. Yeah, it was very serendipitous.
speaker-0 (21:00)
Kind of a God thing.
Love that. if you had, let's just say, no, let me ask you this. What would you like to spend more time doing? Like in general, it could be sleeping, it could be working, could be like, no, like what would you
speaker-1 (21:21)
like
in my entire life.
speaker-0 (21:23)
Today. And your entire life, yes.
speaker-1 (21:29)
I would like, I don't know if this is a fair answer, but I think it's kind of a repeat. I would like to spend more time continuing to be intentional with, you know, in everything that I'm doing, no matter what it is, and spending more time, like, creating the projects and like in the concept part and in the interaction part. Like, I'm really into that part of the process in the bakery too, and just...
kind of building that up and just being more intentional. And nature is such an important part of my process and just being outside more. Because I think that's the ultimate grounding. I could ground the room as much as I want. But nothing is going to compare with being outside and just realizing we're like little specks in the universe and just resetting your perspective.
speaker-0 (22:20)
Isn't it crazy? Yeah. Crazy. It's funny that you say that being more intentional because I went on my stories today on Instagram for the first time in a couple of weeks and saying that I just need to be more intentional. Yeah. That's really, I have, it's a reset for myself because I've been running off of instinct.
Yep. So much that it's just time to slow down and really.
speaker-1 (22:42)
Yeah, your nervous system just like needs a reset. Yes.
speaker-0 (22:46)
That is the truth.
so Kate let me ask you this. What is a risk that you've taken in your career? Okay, that has paid off. And then on the flip side, what risk have you taken that has not paid off?
speaker-1 (22:59)
Cool.
Okay, a risk that I've taken that has paid off would be career change, which also I feel like we've talked about, usually interior design is like a second career for a lot of people, not for everyone. But for a lot of people, that's a risk I took that really paid off. It was kind of a risk. I was just like, sure. Yeah, let me see, you know, let's see how this works out. And I've, I just love it. And I'm so thankful. And something that I've
done,
speaker-0 (23:26)
Hmm.
speaker-1 (23:27)
I think,
I think investing in things that kind of haven't really panned out or different programs that haven't really, and I'm not just saying this because it's you and we're talking, but the bakery has been such an immersive experience, truly. You get friends, you get support, you get professionals, you get advice. So I kind of flipped that question around, but I think like...
investing in the right things and taking your time to like research what programs are really good. Yeah. You know.
speaker-0 (24:02)
difference and what you need.
speaker-1 (24:04)
Yeah, yeah, what you need and being honest with yourself of like where where you are in your process. Yes.
speaker-0 (24:09)
And if you're willing to do the work.
So the market's actually changing. like a program like the bakery is not as like people are not submerging themselves as much. I think we're learning differently. The time spending on Zoom and like really diving in, it's changed. It's seeing a shift in the market.
What you said is so true. like, what works best for you and what will you do? like, for example, I joke that I need a personal trainer because I need to have that appointment and that financial commitment to show up versus just joining a gym. So finding out what you need for your own learning process is so
speaker-1 (24:54)
Yeah, to me community is everything. yeah. And that's, you know, it's lonely having your own business and even, you know, I work very closely with my aunt, but you know, it's, hard. You don't have that built in system of like, you know, right? Yeah. You have the freedom to not, but I'm not, know, I'm not.
speaker-0 (25:10)
office every day.
speaker-1 (25:15)
On the other side of it, it gets a little lonely. And it's really nice to have a community behind you where you can DM people that you've never met in person, be like, hey, did you see this? What do you think about this? Or what should I do about that? Or go into the Facebook group. mean, there's just so many different ways that you could utilize it. And if you never want to talk to anyone, you don't have to either. If someone's like, god, that sounds horrible, you can apply.
speaker-0 (25:40)
yeah,
I was in the Baker's like what when that is too funny. so let me ask. Okay, another question. This one is personally very selfish. Like, what book would you recommend reading?
speaker-1 (25:56)
Gosh, you're asking the best question. Wow, what book? Let me look at my nightstand and see what I have going on. Well, my ultimate favorite book, this has nothing to do with design or anything. One of my favorite books in the whole entire world is The Book Thief.
speaker-0 (25:58)
Yeah.
I've never read that one.
speaker-1 (26:14)
It's
really fascinating. It's about it's sad, but it's really good. And another book that I would recommend for just like for just when people who like to get really deep into life is tiny beautiful things.
speaker-0 (26:28)
I've never heard of that one.
speaker-1 (26:29)
Cheryl Stryer, Stryard? huh. But Tiny Beautiful Things is a compilation. The author had an advice column called Dear Sugar. And the book is a compilation of all of her favorite and best write-ins. And some of them are funny, some of them are, I I sobbed, I was laughing. Like some of them are just like, you know, easy and light and bright and just her responses are stunning.
speaker-0 (26:52)
I love that. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's very selfish that I asked this question.
speaker-1 (26:56)
That was a curve ball, Michelle.
speaker-0 (26:59)
I like to keep my guests on the show.
speaker-1 (27:02)
I like that one though, reading, I like reading.
speaker-0 (27:04)
I just that's one of the things that I want to do more of is just reading for pleasure. And you know, there's always all my business books and self help and growth and all of that sort of stuff. But I just like the escape.
speaker-1 (27:10)
Yeah.
Yeah, well those are two definitely in my top five.
speaker-0 (27:23)
yay, yay yay, not anymore.
speaker-1 (27:24)
I mean, I really love A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, but everyone's probably read that one. Which one? A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. That's a classic and I just like to read it every once in a to cut back in.
speaker-0 (27:34)
don't
think I've read that one. way. No, I don't think I've read. I've heard of it. The tree grows in Brooklyn. I'll write all these down. Okay, well, we'll get together and we'll just compare notes because ones that I probably you haven't heard of.
speaker-1 (27:47)
Okay, great.
Please pass them, pass on my way.
speaker-0 (27:53)
It's one of those things that I've thought about, okay, could I start a book club? Like where we just get together and read virtually and like have these conversations. It's like, God, that sounds like one more thing to do.
speaker-1 (28:05)
Yeah, but on the plus side books take a long time to finish so you would have some time and it's not like you could read every, you know, every week.
speaker-0 (28:12)
weekly
thing. That's true. But I was just telling you I got press on nails because I can't even make it to my nail appointments anymore.
speaker-1 (28:20)
It might not be in your future.
speaker-0 (28:21)
No, I'd rather attend than start one. Kate, this has been so much fun.
speaker-1 (28:27)
It really has been. Thank you so much for doing this and just for everything. Oh, so
speaker-0 (28:33)
I know that our audience is going to love everything you've shared. Let's finally give them your Instagram handles.
speaker-1 (28:39)
They can find me at Kate Vitali with an underscore at the end is my personal slash also business. And then my official business is Vitali interiors.
new, so I only have about three posts up so far, but I'll be getting a lot more in, especially it's a busy week ahead. We're getting back into the swing.
speaker-0 (28:57)
So exciting. That is so exciting. Well, I will make sure that your details are listed in the show notes for our audience to reference. I want to thank you for being here. This has been so much fun.
speaker-1 (29:06)
Thank you.
speaker-0 (29:11)
But here, see, this is why I have notes for our podcast. I can go down these bunny trails. So that's a wrap on today's podcast, y'all. If you loved what you heard, don't keep it to yourself. Please share it with a fellow designer who could use a little inspiration. And also, please, wherever you listen to your podcast, drop us a review. It really does help. All right. Until next time. Thanks, Kate.
